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I just had a full listen through of kill 'em all (sans that pulling teeth drivel), on my woofer sound system, and it's as good as ever

shockingly, there is not a single ballad on this album. it never stops, it is trashing front to back.

what is this? no other rock album does not contain any ballad. it's almost too badass to exist.

even slipknot has pussy ballads on their albums. metallica didnt, on this competent first album.


There’s lots of great albums like this. They just kick your head in from start to finish. 

 
One doesn't get talked about much but it was the first Metallica song I heard.  
Same. We had to pick song lyrics to transcribe and analyze in school. The metal kids picked One and my friend and I picked What it Takes by Aerosmith. 

 
Load and Re-Load (lol)

Just by the albums titles, the eyeliner, "edgy" 90's short hair cuts, 

and the out of place headline gig at lollapalooza that nobody wanted to see,

should have been crystal clear by now that Metallica were done and over,

only a 2nd more obvious sell out cash grab was happening. 

They were the kings of "try hard",

Trying to fit into a scene they did not belong.

These albums should be nowhere on a list of Metallica's best work.
I think the band were in a rock and a hard place. If they carried on with doing a rock album post black they would be sellouts but if they went back to doing a thrash album instead from black album onwards they woukd be like slayer where they would be considered one dimensional and like slayer every album sounds the same. Hard rock in95/6 seemed to be where bands were headed, even Slash has said in media interviews during this period he wanted GNR to go back to a back to basics rock album like AFD.

But agree the eyeliner, short haircuts, kirks facial piercings,  and touring on bills like lollapolooza was weird, stupid and out of place. 

I don't know what's worse, Metallicas late 90s look or Axls GNR band look RIR 02.

 
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I just had a full listen through of kill 'em all (sans that pulling teeth drivel), on my woofer sound system, and it's as good as ever

shockingly, there is not a single ballad on this album. it never stops, it is trashing front to back.

what is this? no other rock album does not contain any ballad. it's almost too badass to exist.

even slipknot has pussy ballads on their albums. metallica didnt, on this competent first album.


Dude almost every AC/DC album is rockers with no ballads. Same with Motorhead, they have a few but none pre-KEA. 

Load and Re-Load (lol)

Just by the albums titles, the eyeliner, "edgy" 90's short hair cuts, 

and the out of place headline gig at lollapalooza that nobody wanted to see,

should have been crystal clear by now that Metallica were done and over,

only a 2nd more obvious sell out cash grab was happening. 

They were the kings of "try hard",

Trying to fit into a scene they did not belong.

These albums should be nowhere on a list of Metallica's best work.


I've never liked Load and Reload, I always thought they were bloated, indulgent pandering to the current alt-rock sound. If you're gonna name yourself "Metallica" play metal dammit. Load is a more schizo blend of influences, but it's a snooze with a couple of decent songs. Reload was pandering to fans of songs like Back off Bitch on UYI 1, though they lift riffs from Kyuss, Maiden and Aerosmith on it. I've never bought the "it's a progression" mentality, it was a devolution. They wouldn't have existed without a bunch of NWOBHM and European bands but they previously tried to keep doing their own thing, even as far along as the black album they still had a distinct identity. Load and Reload were complete compromises of that. They could easily have gone back to thrash with the groove metal trend of the 90s but they decided to lean more commercial.

 
Same. We had to pick song lyrics to transcribe and analyze in school. The metal kids picked One and my friend and I picked What it Takes by Aerosmith. 
One was always number 2 on the Tommy Vance Rock Show End of Year Chart. There were a lot of guys in detention drawing Metallica artwork the rest of us were trying to read AFD lyrics. 

 
One is a masterpiece. It’s played to death but I’ll never forget the first time I heard it. I just wanted to hear it again and again. Hearing that double kick build under the guitar as it fades out and then both coming in together. Crushing. The outro solo matches it. 

 
 How’s the production on the remaster, Bass given any boost? 
 


You can occasionally feel it in the mid sections of the longer songs but they didn't boost it. this fella did the best fan remaster, I'm not sure if he did the whole album but it sounds professionally done if not super dynamic. He's played around with various mixes of songs adding dynamics, doing complete remixes, just doing remasters with bass. 



 
KEA: 8

RTL: 9

MOP: 10

AJFA: 9

TBA: 8

Load: 7

Reload: 3

GI: 7

SA: 1

DM: 7

Lulu: 0

HtSD: 7

 
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The "remasters" on the box sets are nothing to write home about. What makes them good buys is all the bonus content.

 
KEA: 8

RTL: 9

MOP: 10

AJFA: 9

TBA: 8

Load: 7

Reload: 3

GI: 7

SA: 1

DM: 7

Lulu: 0

HtSD: 7
KEA: 8

RTL: 9

MOP: 10

AJFA: 9

TBA: 8.5

(Rocktallica)

Load: 7

Reload: 7.5

GI: 7.5

SM: 8 (because of the new songs)

SA: 6.5 (cutting short some of the songs and a better snare would have resulted a 7.5)

DM: 7.5

Lulu: Putrid trench from WW2 IAMTHETABLE

HtSD: 7

SM2: 7

 
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If I were to bump one of my 7s up to a 7.5 it'd probably be Load. Really solid album of generic shitrock.

 
james started out as a pussy (dave mustaine era), then became a badass (kill em all - AJFA), to end up being a pussy again

starting with load he delivered some seriously cringeworthy vocals, and has sounded like smiling faggot on every subsequent album.

"or just a light that lights this dead end stwrrreeeet"

"shoot me again I aint dead yet"

"all the shots I taaaaaake"

"we the phieeepauuuu, aa we the peephaoooooo"

"I blind my eyes and try to fowce it aaaaal into place"

"I blind my eyes I hardly feel it phaaaaasing me by"

 
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You're goddamn right it is. And I know you've got a soft spot for Outlaw Torn.
Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn are fantastic. Then there's stuff like Until It Sleeps, King Sandman, Hero of the Day which is all produced well and pleasant to listen to.

If I was going to bump one of the 7s down to 6.5 it'd probably be Hardwired. Its highs are great but its lows are baaad whereas Death Magnetic I enjoy every track to some extent even if there's no Spit Out the Bone.

 
Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn are fantastic. Then there's stuff like Until It Sleeps, King Sandman, Hero of the Day which is all produced well and pleasant to listen to.

If I was going to bump one of the 7s down to 6.5 it'd probably be Hardwired. Its highs are great but its lows are baaad whereas Death Magnetic I enjoy every track to some extent even if there's no Spit Out the Bone.
Holy fuck did I write this?

 
I still think Lords of Summer had potential as a single. That version on the Hardwired Deluxe edition goes hard. Shame about that half baked demo they initially released.

 
On 7/14/2022 at 7:22 AM, Bad Apple said:

I can only do a decade version of this list:

80's: MOP> Ride/AJFA (tie)>KIll> 6 dollar EP

90's: Black Album> Reload>Load> Garage> SM

00's: St. Anger> Death Magnetic( I'm not joking, we all know the faults on St., Anger, but it grew me more more than DM)

10's: yeah, lol. Spit Out the Bone and Moth Into Flame in the AJFA tone is awesome though

No Life demo is great, in fact the even earlier demos are OK too. The never born Presidio album outtakes should have been made onto St. Anger in some form

Lulu is quite possibly the worst piece of recorded music ever in rock history, but even then, 'Tallica waste a fair number of good riffs with that over rated hack of a singer/clown/"60's counter culture icon"

i think it's cool that you could buy/listen ANY live shows from the past 20 years legally/officially. I think Metallica was the first big band in that regard

At some point, they were the best metal band in the 80's

Full blown Lars on coke, the whole band was on another level, some songs are the fastest recorded live performances here, almost on Slayer/early Kreator BPM level etc.. Fastest Fight Fire and Damage Inc there

absoutely awesome

i'd kill for this show in SBD quality

They were still pissed about Cliff around this time.... real relentless energy

After Cliff died, they went onto different ways musically and quality wise....



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