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Johnny Ramone said:
Man I thought this was fucking brutal compared to the book. How the hell do you expect to cover that material in a 90min documentary! As you said, should have been an 8 part thing. 
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It made a stronger case for Charlie brainwashing and telling them to do it than it was part of CHAOS MKultra. 

All the details left out add up to a more convincing case but the broadstrokes are pretty clear. The maker or interviewer thinks Charlie brainwashed them but MKultra techniques didn't work? 
 

Jolly West knocking around when a bunch of hypnotized girls murder Hollywood elites funding the Black Panthers. And he was getting his patients from the clinic and the Manson girls all went to the clinic and were living on a commune known to the authorities...

 
wasted said:
It made a stronger case for Charlie brainwashing and telling them to do it than it was part of CHAOS MKultra. 

All the details left out add up to a more convincing case but the broadstrokes are pretty clear. The maker or interviewer thinks Charlie brainwashed them but MKultra techniques didn't work? 
 

Jolly West knocking around when a bunch of hypnotized girls murder Hollywood elites funding the Black Panthers. And he was getting his patients from the clinic and the Manson girls all went to the clinic and were living on a commune known to the authorities...
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It just left out way too much info, I mean the fucking parole violations by Manson and a few of the chicks prior to the murders both in number and the sheer blind eye turned to them lets you know they were being left out for some reason. 
This could have been a great doc, instead it’s just another fucking Manson doc with some sprinkles of the book. Wasted opportunity. 

 
Johnny Ramone said:
It just left out way too much info, I mean the fucking parole violations by Manson and a few of the chicks prior to the murders both in number and the sheer blind eye turned to them lets you know they were being left out for some reason. 
This could have been a great doc, instead it’s just another fucking Manson doc with some sprinkles of the book. Wasted opportunity. 
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It did mention the parole violations and the Black Panther connections, but it didn't explain why it matters or the context. It didn't construct its own story of what happened. 
 

 
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Adolescence (2025) 

Controversial. 
 

I thought it was pretty balanced but then you turn on BBC and it's all about the manosphere and incel culture. It was more nuanced than that. 
 

The school was like a MKuktra camp. Pack em in and start screaming at them! 

 
Watched the Fred & Rose doc on Netflix, it wasn’t bad, some footage and tidbits there I hadn’t seen/heard before, also watched the Osama doc and am currently watching the Vietnam war doc on Netflix also. 

 
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